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>> corruption is happening at the highest level in the government of afghanistan. i want the international community to put more pressure on high political authorities. >> u.s. senators do too and they are pushing the head of military operations in afghanistan to keep an eye on the money. >> the karzai government and other people in afghanistan are trying to cover up the extent of the fraud and manipulation in the bank. >> they forced the fund to cutoff the credit line and the country is losing a valuable source of funding as the u.s. and allies begin a huge transition process to pull up. >> there were american funds flowing through to the contractors in many provinces of afghanistan including kandahar. >> the part of the bank that pays afghan police salaries, that's split off from the loan department and that part pathat pays police is still functioning. the imf is not restarting their donor program because there concerns there and now we hear there is a second bank, another bank under scrutiny. >> good report. thanks very much. president obama accused of using cl
>> corruption is happening at the highest level in the government of afghanistan. i want the international community to put more pressure on high political authorities. >> u.s. senators do too and they are pushing the head of military operations in afghanistan to keep an eye on the money. >> the karzai government and other people in afghanistan are trying to cover up the extent of the fraud and manipulation in the bank. >> they forced the fund to cutoff the credit line...
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i was really struck by a cartoon this week that had the leaders of iraq and afghanistan, maliki and karzai, looking at our debt ceiling debate and saying do you think they'll ever be ready for democracy? you know, the fact is that we've got people who have been elected, house members have been elected in gerrymandered, much more partisan districts. they're more worried about being challenged in a primary than running against the democrat. you've got both caucuses now much more ideological because the census the democrats were defeated in the last round. so, this whole thing fell apart. john boehner and barack obama probably could have come together on something. they could not lead their caucuses, and boehner is a different kind of speaker. he has not the ability or the desire to go out and say this is the deal, my way or the highway. you're not going to get on this, you're not going to get on that, you're not going to have a good office. the old enforcement mechanisms, as much as we dislike them and used to criticize them, they worked. leaders could demand followship. here, there's an exi
i was really struck by a cartoon this week that had the leaders of iraq and afghanistan, maliki and karzai, looking at our debt ceiling debate and saying do you think they'll ever be ready for democracy? you know, the fact is that we've got people who have been elected, house members have been elected in gerrymandered, much more partisan districts. they're more worried about being challenged in a primary than running against the democrat. you've got both caucuses now much more ideological...
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the president's premature withdrawal from afghanistan which is clearly driven not by general petraeus but by general plouffe. not by the aims and necessities of the war but of a political campaign. this has got to send a message to our enemies which is dangerous for the united states. add this on top. the president was behind the power curve when the spring revolutions brock out throughout the mideast. now he's demonstrating how tone-deaf he is by this action today. jeer either in a war or we're not. -- >> we are either in a war or we're not. the zigzagging policy is putting the united states at a distinct disadvantage. today we saw attorney general holder's justice department is move forwarding with criminal investigations, based on the cia interrogations, in particular two detainees that happened to die in cia custody. when i read that with other criminal investigations that are ongoing of some other cia operatives that took part in some of these interrogations. this administration is fighting more aggressively our own patriots than our enemies. >> this is mystifying why the attorne
the president's premature withdrawal from afghanistan which is clearly driven not by general petraeus but by general plouffe. not by the aims and necessities of the war but of a political campaign. this has got to send a message to our enemies which is dangerous for the united states. add this on top. the president was behind the power curve when the spring revolutions brock out throughout the mideast. now he's demonstrating how tone-deaf he is by this action today. jeer either in a war or...
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you count savings from withdrawal of troops, from afghanistan and from iraq. you have some other defense cuts can, you have a whole bunch of discretionary cuts. you do some little things on mandatory programs that are not social security or medicare. and so then the deal gets done and some ofhese big questions on medicare and taxes get saved for the 2012 campaign. on the other hand, whenou read quotes which you occasionally read, from congressional staffers, republican staff are saying, you know, ybe a showdown in whiche don't get this deal isn't the worst thing. that does make you wonder how many people within congress think that actually no deal would be better than a deal. and my colleague david brooks argues that that would be very bad for the republicans politically. i'm not so sure about that. there is only one president and there's only one ecomy and i think there's a chance that chaos and no deal actually hurts the white house and to the extent that the republicans agree with that, then we could be in for a really dicey couple of months. >> rose: thank
you count savings from withdrawal of troops, from afghanistan and from iraq. you have some other defense cuts can, you have a whole bunch of discretionary cuts. you do some little things on mandatory programs that are not social security or medicare. and so then the deal gets done and some ofhese big questions on medicare and taxes get saved for the 2012 campaign. on the other hand, whenou read quotes which you occasionally read, from congressional staffers, republican staff are saying, you...
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the pentagon released the names of 17 soldiers and marines killed in iraq and afghanistan. somewhere in america, there's a doctor who can peer into the future. there's a nurse who can access in an instant every patient's past. and because the whole hospital's working together, there's a family who can breathe easy, right now. somewhere in america, we've already answered some of the nation's toughest healthcare questions. and the over 60,000 people of siemens are ready to do it again. siemens. answers. >>> that's it for our program today. thank you for watching and we'll see you next week. >>> in the news this sunday, the revealing new pictures in the bryan stow investigation. same-sex couples are getting married in new york. join us next for the news at navigating today's real estate market is complicated. you've seen the signs. that's why having the right real estate agent is more important than ever. at remax.com, you can find experts in short sales or bank-owned properties or commercial real estate, agents who can help speed up the process,
the pentagon released the names of 17 soldiers and marines killed in iraq and afghanistan. somewhere in america, there's a doctor who can peer into the future. there's a nurse who can access in an instant every patient's past. and because the whole hospital's working together, there's a family who can breathe easy, right now. somewhere in america, we've already answered some of the nation's toughest healthcare questions. and the over 60,000 people of siemens are ready to do it again. siemens....
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>> afghanistan. >> oh, afghanistan. i think we are trying to disengage. that is a sensible policy. i don't think we should proclaim to stay there and win and create a modern afghanistan, i think that has been abandoned. >> i don't think we should pack our bags and just leave. the president is striving at a departure. reinforced by an international umbrella that is yet to be shaped, a kind of regional consensus and in effect, create a situation with the problem of afghanistan, which is also the problem of pakistan, becomes a regional problem in which the country's in the region have a stake in solving and are not -- there's a reasonable chance that can be pulled off. >> dr. brzezinski, you mentioned pakistan. the focus of policy leaders. turning away from afghanistan, we got reports the journalist who was killed by the isi inside pakistan further out is complicating our relationship with that group. we announced going in to kill osama bin laden. how do we manage this relationship that's been difficult to manage for as far as the eye can see? >> well, first of all, we have to recogni
>> afghanistan. >> oh, afghanistan. i think we are trying to disengage. that is a sensible policy. i don't think we should proclaim to stay there and win and create a modern afghanistan, i think that has been abandoned. >> i don't think we should pack our bags and just leave. the president is striving at a departure. reinforced by an international umbrella that is yet to be shaped, a kind of regional consensus and in effect, create a situation with the problem of afghanistan,...
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. >> let's talk about afghanistan, one of the hot wars and the fact that we had the bombing, the attack against the intercontinental in kabul which is a real signal from the taliban and network they can go to a target right in the heart of the capital. if the karzai forces we've been training up can't defend -- they responded well in the emergency, we're told, but if they can't respond in kabul, isn't that a signal it's going to be a long haul, and maybe there is no legacy end of the tunnel? >> i think the reset of our afghan policy last week by the president was correct. i think it was long in coming. i was never a fan of the surge or the counterinsurgency doctrine. karzai is not a willing partner. last week this mumbai style shooting attack, it could have been worse. i would give the afghans a little credit, but it was staged by the hakani gnat wornetwork, protected group, protected by the pakistani government. that group comes over the border regularly, kills our troops and obviously now is prepared to shoot at big targets in afghanistan. it's a bad signal about how ready the pakista
. >> let's talk about afghanistan, one of the hot wars and the fact that we had the bombing, the attack against the intercontinental in kabul which is a real signal from the taliban and network they can go to a target right in the heart of the capital. if the karzai forces we've been training up can't defend -- they responded well in the emergency, we're told, but if they can't respond in kabul, isn't that a signal it's going to be a long haul, and maybe there is no legacy end of the...
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the cuts are not really new but simply counting the saving from the wind down of the wars in iraq and afghanistan. senate republicans say reid was with them on a two-step increase process, but that the white house shot that down. and the white house says it's all up to boehner to find a way forward. now, pressure is mounting, so is anxiety over the markets. here's white house chief of staff bill daley on "meet the press" yesterday. >> we are now getting to a point where i think markets around the world will question whether the political system in washington can come together and compromise for the greater good of the. >> country. >> the new fear. a downgrade in america's credit rating even if a debt creeling is raised. if only for six or nine months if it looks like washington can't figure out a long-term debt and deficit issue. by the way, something else going on here. the white house is basically out of the talks. harry reid is proxy for the white house. there isn't much communication going on between house republicans and the white house. it looked like yesterday morning that might not be the
the cuts are not really new but simply counting the saving from the wind down of the wars in iraq and afghanistan. senate republicans say reid was with them on a two-step increase process, but that the white house shot that down. and the white house says it's all up to boehner to find a way forward. now, pressure is mounting, so is anxiety over the markets. here's white house chief of staff bill daley on "meet the press" yesterday. >> we are now getting to a point where i think...
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this is a war of religion in the country and not different from afghanistan, and a few less people are getting shot. but you know, we have talked on the last show about this book of mine "sex, god and mom," and people who read that book understand that religion impacts politics and you brought up michele bachmann and i read today where she was saying that she got into politics by reading my late father francisç shea's books on calling for the people to overthrow the government and unless it sent roe v. wade back to the courts for decision to take choice away from women. this element is prevalent in the united states right now, and we can't kid ourselves, because it is extremism under the form of christianity. >> thank you, frank. >>> and now, like the fall of communism, some are beginning to suggest that multiculturalism has had the day. in the last few months a number of world leaders from prime minister david cameron in the uk to chancellor angel la ameria mm germany have spoken of the fall of this. and just as europe have developed a single currency and tried to be a unified union
this is a war of religion in the country and not different from afghanistan, and a few less people are getting shot. but you know, we have talked on the last show about this book of mine "sex, god and mom," and people who read that book understand that religion impacts politics and you brought up michele bachmann and i read today where she was saying that she got into politics by reading my late father francisç shea's books on calling for the people to overthrow the government and...
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we have an iraq war, which is still there, an afghanistan war that has been beefed up, what's good tweeter, twitter, tweeting. >> not just that, chris, but a lot of the appeal about president obama in 2008 was he was new and fresh and gave a chance to americans to write history. that happened. how do you make history twice, the answer is you don't. he has to find a way to fire up the base once again. ultimately, his message if the economy doesn't improve is the other guys will make it worse. look at their policies and views. >> john, you're key. i want to end it with that note. it's brilliant. it's about the next four years, it's not the blame game. who do you have confidence in to lead the country out of the situation we are now. thank you so much jonathan and alex wagner for tutoring me rather crudely. let me finish with -- we're going to have a birthday tribute to nancy reagan for the reasons she was a moderating force on that man next to her. you're watching "hardball." >>> let me finish with a birthday tribute to an american who made a difference. her name is nancy reagan. she was our
we have an iraq war, which is still there, an afghanistan war that has been beefed up, what's good tweeter, twitter, tweeting. >> not just that, chris, but a lot of the appeal about president obama in 2008 was he was new and fresh and gave a chance to americans to write history. that happened. how do you make history twice, the answer is you don't. he has to find a way to fire up the base once again. ultimately, his message if the economy doesn't improve is the other guys will make it...
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. >> susan page, remember the comment about afghanistan during the debate. it feels like it's almost as if we're going to find out, well, he misspoke. well, that's -- you know, right now, this is not hurting him too much but over time, this could accumulate. >> going right to a core vulnerability for mitt romney. all the flip-flops we saw last time around on social issue. he cannot afford to be someone as changing positions. if michele bachmann said something -- >> susan page, eugene robinson, richard wolff. we're coming back. you get to say something right after the break. i promise. >>> this is "hardball." two segment analysts. only on msnbc. okies goodbye. new newtons fruit thins. real blueberries and blueberry brown sugar... crispy whole grain. newtons fruit thins, one unique cookie. challenge that with olay regenerist night elixir. its gentle glycolic formula resurfaces at night for the smooth skin of a light chemical peel. sleep tight. regenerist, from olay. >>> the republican presidential field is adding yet another candidate. five-term michigan congr
. >> susan page, remember the comment about afghanistan during the debate. it feels like it's almost as if we're going to find out, well, he misspoke. well, that's -- you know, right now, this is not hurting him too much but over time, this could accumulate. >> going right to a core vulnerability for mitt romney. all the flip-flops we saw last time around on social issue. he cannot afford to be someone as changing positions. if michele bachmann said something -- >> susan page,...
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but those ied blasts, especially in afghanistan and in pakistan may groove to be critical, because again, a bomb maker leaves a signature. most bomb makers continue to make their bombs the same way until they are either killed or caught. so they're going to look to see if this matches any of the information that may be in that very classified u.s. database on bomb makers around the world. wolf? >> when you get more information, let us know, barbara, thank very much. and to our viewer, stand by for all breaking news on the deadly attacks in norway. we're not leaving the story for long. we're watching president obama, trying to pull voters into the debt limit drama as the clock winds down. we're taking a closer look at where the talks stand right now. and the long distance message he's sending republicans. and the people turn against a powerful and feared state legislature who pushed for the toughest immigration laws the nation has ever seen. stay with us. the chevy cruze eco offers an epa estimated 42 miles per gallon on the highway. how does it do that? well, to get there, a lot of compl
but those ied blasts, especially in afghanistan and in pakistan may groove to be critical, because again, a bomb maker leaves a signature. most bomb makers continue to make their bombs the same way until they are either killed or caught. so they're going to look to see if this matches any of the information that may be in that very classified u.s. database on bomb makers around the world. wolf? >> when you get more information, let us know, barbara, thank very much. and to our viewer,...
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secondly, the united states needs pakistan for a stable afghanistan and pakistan needs the united states to beat terrorism, which we consider to be a menace for our own people. we need to work together and both sides are working together. the only problem is whenever there's a disagreement or the pace of things, it always becomes a much bigger story. my understanding is that the united states government is continuing with civilian assistance to pakistan. >> but military is a different matter. >> which as you know is more than $1 billion in promises. . >> let's talk about what's deeply irritated u.s. officials. i know this because they' told me this, that on a couple of occasions at least they gave intelligence information top your government about terrorists building bombs, secret locati locations. within a few days, when your troops went there to do something about it, all the folks were gone. all the bad guys -- somebody tipped off the bad guys about the information. >> the important thing is that the troops went there to take action. >> but it was too late. >> previously, we always he
secondly, the united states needs pakistan for a stable afghanistan and pakistan needs the united states to beat terrorism, which we consider to be a menace for our own people. we need to work together and both sides are working together. the only problem is whenever there's a disagreement or the pace of things, it always becomes a much bigger story. my understanding is that the united states government is continuing with civilian assistance to pakistan. >> but military is a different...
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it provides a window into understanding the future of afghanistan. amid wally carsi karzai was rut with troops not supporting his brother, cutting them off from any aid. he gave the american and brid tisch forces information on hostile tribes, provided crucial intelligence on key groups and militants. he was the first afghan leader to begin talking with the taliban about ceasefires and their entry in the government. in other words, he was a practical deal maker. now, he was famous in the west or notorious for the corruption that surrounded him. but corruption surrounded all of the billions of dollars in american and western military aid and spending being brought into afghanistan. everyone in afghanistan was corrupt. amid karzai was an ally and effective deal maker. a journalist recalls he was a wheeler dealer in the classic afghan mode. but if tefs a rogue, he was a loveable rogue who charmed you, one way of doing political business in afghanistan. karzai's death reminds us it is the kind of political business he excelled at that we need urgently. t
it provides a window into understanding the future of afghanistan. amid wally carsi karzai was rut with troops not supporting his brother, cutting them off from any aid. he gave the american and brid tisch forces information on hostile tribes, provided crucial intelligence on key groups and militants. he was the first afghan leader to begin talking with the taliban about ceasefires and their entry in the government. in other words, he was a practical deal maker. now, he was famous in the west...
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. >> rose: owednesday president obama will announce how many troo will bring home from afghanistan beginning next month. the announcement follows months of debate in the white house, it comes with increasing concern in the war andure role in the country. the administration fac a number of challenges at home. unemployment remains high at 9.1%. the housing market continues to suffer and the u.s. debt has surpassed 14 trillion dollars. all of this will pose a significant challenge for the president in the 2012 eltion. joining me now a group of comments from the new york time from washington david brooks, with me here in new york, david leonhardt, roger cohen and tom friedman. they have all won too many awards to talk about. mi pleased to have all of them on this program today to talk about america. what's the challenge for us? because wherever i go around the world the thing they say is tt we want america to take care of their business at home first, so that they can lead the world and pla an important part as the rest of the world changes. >> well, charlie, i think the world does understan tha
. >> rose: owednesday president obama will announce how many troo will bring home from afghanistan beginning next month. the announcement follows months of debate in the white house, it comes with increasing concern in the war andure role in the country. the administration fac a number of challenges at home. unemployment remains high at 9.1%. the housing market continues to suffer and the u.s. debt has surpassed 14 trillion dollars. all of this will pose a significant challenge for the...
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barbara, a very dramatic development today in afghanistan. mullen goes there and troops start asking him, troops who are risking their lives fighting for the united states in afghanistan, will they be paid next week? >> these are young troops, wolf, in combat. you and i have covered the pentagon for a long time. they are on the front lines. the chairman of the joint chiefs spend the day in afghanistan. he wants to talk about the war. the troops have a different idea in mind. they want to know will they get paid and will their families be taken care of. this is just the beginning because now with all the talk in washington about money, money, money, the pentagon itself is right in the cross hairs. the pentagon spend nearly $700 billion a year on wars, fighter jets, bombings and bullets. rich target to cut spending to reduce the deficit. president obama's incoming top military advisor is playing ball to an extent. >> if we don't show we recognize that the nation has a significant economic problem and then do our part whatever that part may be t
barbara, a very dramatic development today in afghanistan. mullen goes there and troops start asking him, troops who are risking their lives fighting for the united states in afghanistan, will they be paid next week? >> these are young troops, wolf, in combat. you and i have covered the pentagon for a long time. they are on the front lines. the chairman of the joint chiefs spend the day in afghanistan. he wants to talk about the war. the troops have a different idea in mind. they want to...
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we cannot do that." >> rose: with afghanistan? >> with afghanistan. am i doingin afghanistan gha what lyndon johnson did in vietnam 40 years before. >> rose: my assumption in the surge in part-- and you assume he thinks it has strategic significance and importance there because you don't want afghanistato be a haven for terrism d at the same time when he was going through this there were only, like, 100 members of al qaeda that there. allknow that. my assumption has always been just your point. i think he was influenced by the idea that, look i'm not sure this is going to work but i'm not prepared not to the do it and see what the consequens are. i'm mo prepared to do in the this case because i've described this as a war of choice... i've described this as a war of necessity, not choice, as iq was characterized a aar choice. >> i think you're absolutely on it and what we tried to do literally in chapter 9 of this book is to describe the mind-set of obama when he was handling time and time again questions relating to afghanistan. for example, in the su
we cannot do that." >> rose: with afghanistan? >> with afghanistan. am i doingin afghanistan gha what lyndon johnson did in vietnam 40 years before. >> rose: my assumption in the surge in part-- and you assume he thinks it has strategic significance and importance there because you don't want afghanistato be a haven for terrism d at the same time when he was going through this there were only, like, 100 members of al qaeda that there. allknow that. my assumption has...
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troops in afghanistan by september 2012. hugo chavez made a surprise return home. he's been in havana cuba for several weeks after undergoing emergency surgery to remove a cancerous tumor. former secretary of state condoleezza rice attended today's unveiling ceremony and remarked on the special relationship between the u.s. and britain. margaret thatcher paid tribute. >> they've got a statute and we've got an airport. probably some other things named after him, too. thanks so much for that. the housing crisis have been so painful for so many americans it can be even harder for american families. troops ordered to relocate can face massive losses on the homes they've been forced to leave behind. >> packing up and moving out. this is montgomery's 15th time for the military. but this time it's different as he makes his move to virginia, the financial burden of his north las vegas home will be. co-ing with him. the house he purchased four years ago with much of his life savings has lost so much in value it's a struggle to figure out how best to cut his losses. >> how m
troops in afghanistan by september 2012. hugo chavez made a surprise return home. he's been in havana cuba for several weeks after undergoing emergency surgery to remove a cancerous tumor. former secretary of state condoleezza rice attended today's unveiling ceremony and remarked on the special relationship between the u.s. and britain. margaret thatcher paid tribute. >> they've got a statute and we've got an airport. probably some other things named after him, too. thanks so much for...
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troops in afghanistan. this is the story that's just coming in. and how much are house democrats willing to give to raise the debt limit? i'll ask the democratic party chairwoman about possible cut. she's walk into "the situation room" right now. congresswoman, stand by. >>> the clock is ticking towards a possible default of the nation's debt. the democratic party chair in the congress certainly has a lot op her plate right now with the debt crisis. everything else, as well as a very, very strong verbal showdown with a republican colleague of hers from florida. she's here in the situation room. congressman, thanks very much for coming in. let's talk about substance first and then you can talk about this riff you have with this congressman. the gang of six is out with a plan. the president warmly embracing it, even though there are cuts in medicare for the elderly included. is this something you can live with? >> well, i think the really good and big news out of that gang of six is prose sal is that there are finally republicans, particularly in th
troops in afghanistan. this is the story that's just coming in. and how much are house democrats willing to give to raise the debt limit? i'll ask the democratic party chairwoman about possible cut. she's walk into "the situation room" right now. congresswoman, stand by. >>> the clock is ticking towards a possible default of the nation's debt. the democratic party chair in the congress certainly has a lot op her plate right now with the debt crisis. everything else, as well...
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it is a president who made decisions with respect to afghanistan. in fact we were under resourced and didn't str strategy and direction and tripled the number of troops there and now we are seeing in a position to take down the numbers. it is a president who has had the united states in the lead in terms of counterterrorism. it is a president who, in europe, for example, we had a summit last november. where the president led the effort on missile defense, on getting a common way forward in afghanistan, on a new concept for europe and alternate work there. it is a president who took the lead on taking the g-20 and making it the premier and principle global financial management agency in the world. time after time i have seen the president come in the situation room and i have been in there hundreds of times and sit down and make these kinds of decisions where american is leading and again the entire effort here is to have america restore its influence and power and authority in the world. of course, i also had the privilege of working closely with th
it is a president who made decisions with respect to afghanistan. in fact we were under resourced and didn't str strategy and direction and tripled the number of troops there and now we are seeing in a position to take down the numbers. it is a president who has had the united states in the lead in terms of counterterrorism. it is a president who, in europe, for example, we had a summit last november. where the president led the effort on missile defense, on getting a common way forward in...
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we have the war in iraq, muddled ending, war in afghanistan, mudd muddled. guns are not going to solve this problem. the days of the marshall plan, the idea we're going to poor hundreds or millions of dollars. this is a g to g movement, a generation to generation movement, realizing there's change there. we'll have to engage on a different level. >> you think what is going on here, the arab world is much kag up with the rest of the world? it's joining the modern world? >> i think that there's a lot of evidence that this is the beginning of that process. i have, ever since 9/11 been in the middle of this conversation about can we get along? in every one of those conversations people say where are the muslim moderates? i don't hear them. here they are. this is a group of people standing up. it doesn't say the fundamentalists have gone away. clearly they have not. they're in color of iran and hezbollah and hamas and the wahhabis are still out there. what we're seeing for the first time is the rise of this other story. and it's going to give people a clear choic
we have the war in iraq, muddled ending, war in afghanistan, mudd muddled. guns are not going to solve this problem. the days of the marshall plan, the idea we're going to poor hundreds or millions of dollars. this is a g to g movement, a generation to generation movement, realizing there's change there. we'll have to engage on a different level. >> you think what is going on here, the arab world is much kag up with the rest of the world? it's joining the modern world? >> i think...
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. >> let's take a look at afghanistan, as a piece of that. under bush, we had about 30,000 troops there. that was tripled during the obama administration. so two-thirds of the cost of afghanistan was put into place under obama. >> hang on, hang on, hang on, it wasn't president obama that took america into war in afghanistan. >> you asked for percentage. >> i'm talking about if you analyze the percentage of blame here, then surely you have to go back to decisions that were taken which helped collectively to create this crisis. although you keep presenting other arguments, give me a straight percentage. what percentage of blame, as we stand here today, should be apportioned to republican decision making? >> well, again, you just asked about a number and i said of the cost of the afghan war, the whole afghan war today -- >> why are you avoiding my question. >> is $20 billion. i'm trying to give you a percentage of for instance the afghan war, two-thirds of the cost there this year was put in by obama. that's one piece of the puzzle. >> but 100%
. >> let's take a look at afghanistan, as a piece of that. under bush, we had about 30,000 troops there. that was tripled during the obama administration. so two-thirds of the cost of afghanistan was put into place under obama. >> hang on, hang on, hang on, it wasn't president obama that took america into war in afghanistan. >> you asked for percentage. >> i'm talking about if you analyze the percentage of blame here, then surely you have to go back to decisions that...
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let's talk about the debt ceiling, afghanistan -- >> a music guy. >> amazing. >> forget about it! >> seriously. >> i am not kidding, she's incredible. >> do you have any other news we can't use? >> no. >> let's watch that again. >> i want to hear "free man in par paris." >> she is good at the guitar. >> you started in your 20s yes. >> did you grow up like donna summer, singing in the church? >> no. my family sat around and sang. that's what we do. this is over sharing. >> no, it's not. >> who did you look op to musically? >> patty griffin. girls from austin. i love them so much. if i saw them here -- >> savannah! >> i am surprised. peel back this onion and there are so many layers. >> america already loved you, and now we don't know what to do with you're so great. >> she will be reciting poetry next hour. >> coming up, chuck schumer. >> announcer: this past year alone there's been a 67% spike in companies embracing the cloud-- big clouds, small ones, public, private, even hybrid. your data and apps must move easily and securely to reach many clouds, not just one. that's why the n
let's talk about the debt ceiling, afghanistan -- >> a music guy. >> amazing. >> forget about it! >> seriously. >> i am not kidding, she's incredible. >> do you have any other news we can't use? >> no. >> let's watch that again. >> i want to hear "free man in par paris." >> she is good at the guitar. >> you started in your 20s yes. >> did you grow up like donna summer, singing in the church? >> no. my family...
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republicans come back and say, well, 1.1 of that or more are phantom savings from ending the wars in iraq and afghanistan we're going to end, anyway. those are not real cuts. and wayboehner wants to come ba. it's complicated. i'm still hopeful we'll get something. i think the stock market going down 200 points today, while bad news for 401 k owners i think really did send a powerful message to the congress. you're really playing with fire here now. the markets are -- you thought monday the markets were complacent. they're no longer complacent. they're sending you a strong signal, buddy. get your act together or you're going to have real trouble. >> they can try and play the blame game. >> go ahead, gloria. >> i was going to say, they can try and play the blame game with each other, which i'm sure they will do. because once you pass a bill in the house the republicans can say, look, we've done it. we've done our work. once you pass a bill, a democratic bill in the senate, democrats could say we've done our work. but i think they're beyond that, anderson. because i think they will all suffer in the end if
republicans come back and say, well, 1.1 of that or more are phantom savings from ending the wars in iraq and afghanistan we're going to end, anyway. those are not real cuts. and wayboehner wants to come ba. it's complicated. i'm still hopeful we'll get something. i think the stock market going down 200 points today, while bad news for 401 k owners i think really did send a powerful message to the congress. you're really playing with fire here now. the markets are -- you thought monday the...
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all the supply lines to afghanistan run through pakistan. >> stephen: who cares, that war is unwinnable. >> stephen: yes, but without their help, we can't keep fighting it. >> stephen: the point is, they are a nuclear power therefore we need their friendship. >> stephen: friendship, they funded the mumbai attacks much. the times square bombing was planned in pakistan. and they sold nuclear technology to iran and north korea in the '90s. >> stephen: oh, the '90s. let's stay angry about furbies an parachute pants. look, we need to give them an ultimatum. stop supporting terror or no more aid. >> stephen: easy now, buddy. this is a partnership, just like you and me. we're partners. but that doesn't mean you get to decide who my other friends are. >> stephen: i just think jill's a pitch. >> stephen: we're not having this conversation again. >> stephen: the point is, some of my other friends like to do things that you don't like to do. like skiing, or trying to kill you. >> stephen: but that has nothing to do with our friendship. >> stephen: wait, one of your friends wants to kill me? >> ste
all the supply lines to afghanistan run through pakistan. >> stephen: who cares, that war is unwinnable. >> stephen: yes, but without their help, we can't keep fighting it. >> stephen: the point is, they are a nuclear power therefore we need their friendship. >> stephen: friendship, they funded the mumbai attacks much. the times square bombing was planned in pakistan. and they sold nuclear technology to iran and north korea in the '90s. >> stephen: oh, the '90s....
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they will never be a centrally governed pakistan, i mean afghanistan. afghanistan is not like iraq. give me one more second and i'll tell you what i think is going to happen in iraq. we'll probably go back to having one bloodthirsty tyrant to rule the country. that's the irony of iraq. >> happy days, wes. >> afghanistan is extraordinarily tribal. it's difficult to have a conversation about afghanistan. one story i loved was one of the things we did in afghanistan when i was working with the civil affairs team, giving out flags to children and local leaders. they would look at the flag and say what is this. you would have to explain, it's your country. there's another thing, i think you brought up a good point, joe. afghanistan is not iraq. you are right. there's a crucial player, though that factors in. that's iran. iran is not only very active and involved, but in addition to that, iran is part of the summit takes place in december between the leaders of pakistan, afghanistan and iran. iran is trying to show its hand in the larger conversation. how that plays out is going to have a
they will never be a centrally governed pakistan, i mean afghanistan. afghanistan is not like iraq. give me one more second and i'll tell you what i think is going to happen in iraq. we'll probably go back to having one bloodthirsty tyrant to rule the country. that's the irony of iraq. >> happy days, wes. >> afghanistan is extraordinarily tribal. it's difficult to have a conversation about afghanistan. one story i loved was one of the things we did in afghanistan when i was working...
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he's been a key voice on everything from the thdrawal in afghanistan to u.s. relationships with china. the los angeles angels of anaheim has written apart from the firs family there may b no one who spends more time than donilon. as the u.s. faces economic challenges at home and rapid changes abroad with an arab spring, the white houshas made its mission to restore american prestige and influence and power around the world. i'm pleased t have tom donilon at this table for the first time welcome. >> thank you, charlie, great to be here. good to see you. >> rose: there's so much to talk about in limited time. we could spend 30 minutes just talking about your biography and your friendship with warren christopher, the clinton administration, all of that. you combine policy and politics in earlier careers and now it's the focus of the united states and its relationship with the world. how do you view the mission? because you said you wanted to restore america's credibility, its influence, its respect, and its power. >> well, i think that's exactly right, and that i
he's been a key voice on everything from the thdrawal in afghanistan to u.s. relationships with china. the los angeles angels of anaheim has written apart from the firs family there may b no one who spends more time than donilon. as the u.s. faces economic challenges at home and rapid changes abroad with an arab spring, the white houshas made its mission to restore american prestige and influence and power around the world. i'm pleased t have tom donilon at this table for the first time...